If I tell you, I'll have to assimilate you. No really, ARHQ is located directly across the street from the UFO Museum in Roswell's downtown area. It's set up bookstore / coffeehouse style to allow guests to sit and read from books and free one-page flyers offering "Roswell NM's only materials with Biblical perspectives on the UFO / Abduction phenomenon." During June and July it's pretty busy, as people travel from all over to visit the UFO Museum, and off-season of course sees fewer visitors - no pun intended (However, the websites see 1-200 visitors daily). I've begun focusing more on traveling to UFO conferences during slower months, offering our materials to the specific target audience.

I want to get some background on the Alien Resistance so I am properly able to introduce you to the readers. What led you to become involved in investigating and researching alien abduction?

Firstly, I am an experiencer from childhood, so always had more than a passing interest in the topic. Shortly after becoming a Christian, I began to see the phenomenon had more in common with spiritual phenomenon than one would expect from true alien visitors (benevolent or hostile). It would be awhile before I found there were many other researchers making the same connections.

After the Heaven's Gate cult suicide in California, I published my "thesis" originally as just a webpage. I'd heard on the news that many of the victims found the cult online (which claimed to be a Christian group. They used a few scriptures sorely out of context, but basically claimed that "Ti and Do" were the modern incarnation of Jesus and the Father, and that by killing yourself with their group, one would enter through Heaven's Gate with them via the "ufo hidden behind the comet" that was passing earth at the time). 39 people died believing this. I decided there needed to be a non-cult biblical perspective offered online for those searching for such things. Working as broker in Nashville, I then had no idea of the can of worms I was opening, or the directions this would ultimately take me!

The webpage also included my experiences told journal-style. This proved (and still proves) effective with non-Christians who do not generally see me as an outsider or a dogmatic Bible-thumper, but as someone who shared their pain, questions, etc... and also with Christians who were unsure what to make of the phenomenon and claims. These visitations were pre-Christian in my life, the importance of which I'll cover below.

While I do research the topic immensely for sake of further understanding, I am not really an investigator. What I mean is that I do not run around collecting reports of sightings to further document or prove the phenomenon exists. This has been done sufficiently already, and it is time for interested people to now ask "What and Why?" rather than "If?" AR offers the Biblical history of this phenomenon, which experiencers were previously usually unable to get from churches or pastors if they ever dared to ask, and therefore wound up in cults or New Age belief systems. We also offer counseling for those who are experiencing paranormal contact or abduction and want it stopped.

The "alliance" of AlienResistance.org incorporates Pastor Chris Ward's teachings and ministry experience, and MUFON researcher Joe Jordan's case histories, with my work. They are both more "advanced" in their research - especially at the conception of AR - I just have the good location! By coming from three very different paths to the same conclusions, we both "back" and "flesh out" each other's findings, and present a pretty air-tight point of view.

Have you ever experienced the phenomenon you investigate?  Answered. This can be read in detail from www.seekye1.com

How long have you been a Christian? Right at 10 years now, living in Roswell the past 3+ years specializing in this area of teaching.

How did you become a Christian? I met Jesus. Long story.

Do you think the topic of alien abductions is too readily dismissed by mainstream science?  Yes

Do you believe mainstream science can offer any answers for the phenomenon?

Not really, and this may be why they dismiss it. All research points to a more spiritual basis for it than physical or extra-terrestrial. All science can do is document whatever physical traces of evidence are left after the fact, but this has done little in regard to understanding it's nature or origins.

Many non-Christian researchers seem to be drawing similar conclusions to you regarding the 'spiritual' nature of the phenomenon.  How does this reinforce your position?

Wonderfully in fact. It's one thing for "religious people" to define the world by their existing dogma, but often hard for these people to accept things outside of their experience, study or existing paradigm - ie they tend to ignore facts to force ideas to fit into their "comfortable" perception. The fact that so many researchers outside of Christianity now say that this is a spiritual issue gives a lot of credibility and even a platform to our position. For instance, I usually find that non-Christian UFO researchers and interested people are very familiar with Genesis 6, and terms like "Nephilim," and are quite eager to hear "my take" on it - they want the info. Christians look at you like you've got a screw loose when you mention it though, and say "... the Bible says what...? Are you sure...?" and then appear pretty uncomfortable when they read it in black in white!   This factor does however open the door for erroneous New Age interpretations as well, but the material on alienresistance.org and Genesis 6 is found by most to be more persuasive - and more logical even - than any other spiritual positions, or so I'm often told.

Are there any patterns in the phenomenon that lend credence to your position?

Mainly the common denominator of prior occult activity in the life of the experiencer/abductee. This page answers that more fully.  However, the fact that abductions are stopped (in progress or as a life pattern) by the authority of Jesus Christ, in the same way our society tends to view exorcism, tends to make the case rather well. Opinions are one thing, but the documented testimonies of people stopping them this way, when nothing else works, speaks volumes.

What types of people claim to have experienced the phenomenon?

That's not easily pinned down, as most researchers can't find a specific type. Many have tried, even looking to prove that it's more fantasy-prone or delusional types, but those studies never really get much evidence to back the wishes of those who wish they could write it off so easily. In fact, it tends to be more intelligent, creative people, if any pattern is found at all. However, as said, the common denominator is occult activity in the life of the experiencer or his/her parents, which is in keeping with what the Bible says. (See above link) Basically though, it's moms, neighbors, everybody really. (Other than the occult connection which we bring up) researchers are actually frustrated by the lack of leads generated by the "averageness" of the cross-section represented by experiencers and abductees.

Are there any common denominators among experiencers? Above

In my experience, experiencers often seek 'spiritual' answers to their experience and many New Age groups offer support.  What role does New Age belief have or play in the phenomenon?

New age belief and practice are an open door to inviting the experience, as mentioned above. However, it could best be said that the New Age culture becomes for the experiencer/abductee what the church should be, and fails to be. The typical experiencer is looking for answers and help, but when approaching church leaders with the topic, people are usually dismissed as crazy, because the church as a whole does not have a paradigm for this. I don't think I made a lot of friends with this, but was quoted in Charisma Magazine (Christian, which did a cover story on our ministries and the topic in general) as saying that most pastors, if approached with one's experiences, would refer a person to a psychiatrist before they would refer you to Jesus (or the Bible) for answers or for healing. Literally EVERY real-live UFO cult member I've ever met is a church drop-out, who was summarily dismissed by a church leader or parent with some namby-pamby answer that did not minister to the person in their time of need. UFO experiencers and those with such interests may as well be modern-day lepers to today's church world. The religious types don't want to touch them.

Conversely, the New Age offers both community and purpose. Experiencers are warmly received by "people just like them," and invited to share their experiences in an accepting environment. Sarcastically speaking, if one is really good at it, they can even be put "on the circuit" and gain both wealth and fame by telling their story or writing a book. The New Age reinforces the (erroneous) benevolence of the experience however, without offering freedom for those who do not want to continue with the violent intrusion of their free will. However, the affirmation, community and sense of purpose offered in "promoting" the visitors are quite attractive compared to what the traditional church offers experiencers. Terms like "ambassador" and "messenger" are thrown around with quite a religious feel. Most experiencers who are not met with the Biblical truth on this subject will either join a UFO cult or start one eventually.

In the same way many experiencers seem uninterested in a Christian approach to the phenomenon.  Do you think this detracts from the credibility of your thesis? 

No more than running a red light detracts from the authority of the light - ignore it at your own peril. Truth is truth regardless of who receives or believes it. The fact that "many experiencers seem uninterested" in Christian points displays the very dogmatic closed-mindedness they would accuse others of, if they are truly unwilling to examine the evidence, that is.  Many will say when presenting "their" viewpoint that all info and points of view need to be examined and considered, so the open-minded info-seeker can make up his or her own mind. But then they will themselves stop short of examining Biblical perspectives. All this said though, the disinterest in Christian material is more rooted in past bad experiences with Christians and their "points of view" on various topics, and especially those Christians who know nothing of this phenomenon telling the experiencer they're crazy - or going to hell. The disinterest is well-deserved, tragically, but the good material available should not be so readily dismissed by non-Christians who are interested in the bottom-line truth, even if it is unpalatable.

What patterns are you seeing among those that take the Christian approach?

Most point to the "demonic" idea at first, and then further study will lead them to change their terminology and refine their theology to realize that demons are different beings actually, from what people are reporting as aliens. Most also tie the UFO phenomenon into the End-Times, the one-world gov't and anti-christ. Too many stop there however, and tend to "spiritualize" the phenomena away, without ever realizing the truth, power and reality behind the sightings, and how deeply entrenched these "visitors" already are into current world power systems.

Usually, the UFO researcher experiences less popularity with Christian circles simply because they seriously delve into the topic. Ostracism would not be an overly harsh word in some cases. However, that "bad boy" or "rebel" image actually helps that same person gain credibility and authority with the experiencer crowd, as they too have been cast off by traditional churches in so many cases.

The patterns in research usually also take the researcher into more and more "spiritual warfare" ministry and teaching. The solution to "alien" abduction is the same as all other well-known teachings on deliverance and exorcism, as the "root problem" has proven to be the same. If the researcher does not follow this pattern, it is most likely because it was only of passing interest to them, and upon answering the question to his/her satisfaction, they simply may not have been called to minister to others in this realm. You can often tell these people by their one book on UFOs in a long string of many others designed primarily to sell to the very lucrative Christian market.

(You can tell by now that I write to win points with the lost btw, not with the church.)

Is your approach merely a matter of using 'magic' words to make abductions stop or is there a deeper underlying principle involved?

Pasted from here: We are not implying that using Jesus' name is a magic formula. There are many who will say they "tried that" and it didn't work. This is because born-again believers are given this authority. The "power" is in the believer's authority given to him or her by Christ, not merely a ritualistic "conjuring" of the name itself. But we also know of times when God has answered cries for help from those who are not Christians, to show Himself as real and caring to the non-believer, or perhaps to inspire a first-time faith (aka "foxhole conversion"). Also, "righteous anger" or any "appeal to a higher power" has produced results for some, but only in individual instances that do not produce lasting peace or freedom (see Eve Lorgen's testimony below). To TERMINATE the experience AS A LIFE PATTERN, and especially to not pass it on to your children (Exodus 20:2 - the Second Commandment), requires a life redeemed by and given to Jesus Christ. 

Why do you think experiencers' claims are legitimate and not linked to medical or psychiatric disorders?

Often they are, and this must be investigated or ruled out before attributing a person's experiences to alien/angelic intrusion. I often say being crazy is not a prerequisite for the experience, but is often an effect! It is quite traumatic and the helplessness, solitude, etc can easily lead to disorders in an otherwise healthy person. However, there are too many otherwise sane and healthy people with no history or evidence of disorders, to ignore their numbers or write the experiencers' claims off, as a whole.

What do abductees experience?

Sheer, unadulterated, hell.

Usually when waking from a sleep, a helpless inability to move, followed by being taken (physically and/or astrally) from their homes to a wide variety of locations. (In the famous MIT study, I think less than 20% of experiencers reported being taken to a "spaceship.")  The experience includes any variety of so-called medical examinations, sexual acts and psychological programming. Some of course report positive experiences, but I think this is primarily after repeated prior contacts (which the experiencer may not remember, often in childhood) which have been co-ordinated to elicit a compliant response, based on the experiencer's perceived helplessness and inability to do anything about what is happening to them.

Beyond this, they often exhibit signs of trauma in their daily lives - stress, paranoia, apathy, suicidal feelings - even if they have no memory of the experience(s). If they remember and speak of these experiences, in the past most have faced ridicule and ostracism, but today there are more places to go to discuss the experience. Many eventually develop a mixed sense of loyalty and devotion to the creatures, and a willingness to promote their messages (again, as their "special ambassador"). This has been rightly compared to the Stockholm Syndrome (Patty Hearst) - when kidnap and torture victims actually join their captors in future crimes. Even the "good aliens/bad aliens" theology popular today should more correctly be labeled "good cop/bad cop."

Are these experiences demographically unique?

No, but not every culture attributes the experience to aliens. In a certain coastal region of Africa, for instance, experiencers believe they are taken underwater, which is in keeping with the local legends, "gods" and culture.

Is this (only) a modern occurrence?

Not at all. 500 years ago, little people with big eyes who abducted people, poked them with magic wands, and practiced lewd sex with humans were called fairies and elves. 1000 years ago, it was mermaids or sirens of the sea. Every history, culture and religion tells the same tale. Biblically, the phenomenon is attributed to wicked angels who abducted human women, had sex with them, and produced the Nephilim (Gen 6, giants KJV). These angels are now bound in chains under the earth, according to 2 Peter and Jude (New Test). We believe it is the same phenomena repeating itself, as Jesus implied would happen prior to his return in Matthew 24:37 (See also this article for more clarity on this issue.)

I read once that more UFO sightings were reported in the UK the year 'Close Encounters' was released than at anytime preceding or following the release of the movie.  What role do you think the mass media might play in influencing peoples perceptions of the phenomenon?

Firstly, I think that by giving publicity and credibility to the topic, such movies have simply made it easier for people to come forth. The numbers may or may not be any different. But also, we can certainly expect people's imaginations to be fired by such, and they may interpret normal phenomenon in light of a movie they just saw. But make no mistake, whether knowingly or not, the mass media are definitely promoting the deception and desensitization of the "alien agenda." With hindsight, we now label certain WWII films as propaganda, designed to make us believe and feel the way the government wanted us to (about Japanese and German people), and to behave more patriotically. It's still propaganda, and we still stay pay top dollar for it.

However, many other supernatural phenomenon may be "boxed" into the alien category now that people have it as a viable frame of reference. Just this week, Britain's researchers are saying that cell phone usage has all but ended reports of ghosts and hauntings! Perhaps those that used to see ghosts now see aliens, because the media coverage has given a new name and face to the supernatural.

Bottom line though, is that if negative spiritual influences are not rebuked and commanded to leave, they will secure and gain more territory (ever had an in-law?). One "ghost-buster" I knew gave me the three stages he most frequently witnessed in individual possession cases and haunted houses, and we agreed that the same was true on a societal level in regards to UFOs:

1) Manifestation (brief "corner of eye" experiences. If not cast out right then leads to..)
2) Fascination (on the part of witnesses, who study and promote them in order to "prove" the occurrences - which leads to...)
3) Infestation (where the spirits / ufos/ greys, whatever now have secured territory, "swarm" and are next to impossible to drive out.)

As a global society, we are well into the "fascination" stage in regard to UFO abductions.

Do you think the predominance of 'alien' stories in the media (eg. X-Files etc.) has any part to play in the similarities reported by experiencers? 

You have written a book on the subject.  What prompted you to do this?

Uh... God.

Quite simply, an effort to reach via the internet those searching for UFO information, hopefully to prevent people from going the direction or winding up like the victims of the Heaven's Gate cult. I also found writing it all out (my experiences) quite catharthic. It helped me come to terms with my past, and although I thought I would just write my webpage and be done with it, the popularity of the site, the e-mail and the need and demand for such info launched my writing, internet and missionary "career."

In a nutshell, what does your book deal with?

Aside from my experiences, it is a pretty light (compared to my more current works and reading list) introductory point of view on The New Testament teachings of the coming One-World religion/government/economy, and how the UFO phenomenon plays into setting us all up for it. The book also deals with the very intentional and orchestrated media desensitization we have been assaulted with over recent decades to make us "swallow" these agendas.

Books such as 'Communion' (by Whitley Streiber) have seemed to influence the way certain sectors of society view alien abductions. Do you think this influence is counter productive?