Abductions: Are They Spiritual or Physical
Experiences?
Our stated positions on the reality of the perceived
“alien abduction” experience, including the modern "hybrid"
aspect of the experience, can be summarized by this Biblical
examination of the available modern evidence.
It is worth noting first that many professional UFO
researchers agree that over 95% of all UFO sightings
are best classified as “mis-identifieds” ; that is,
a natural phenomena or an “identified flying object”
simply mistaken for something else (aliens,
paranormal activity, etc). The focus of our research
and ministry is the small percentage of phenomena
that can possibly be explained as paranormal;
however we do not believe that there is anything
supernatural, paranormal, nor authentically
extra-terrestrial behind the vast numbers of UFO
reports being recorded today. I.E., just because
someone reports (correctly or incorrectly) that
they’ve had a UFO sighting does not imply they have
experienced anything out of the norm, or are in need
of / will benefit from what we offer (other than
perhaps intellectually or spiritually). In short,
our research and ministry is therefore only
personally applicable to a relatively small
percentage of the population (but nonetheless, in
the millions, according to polls).
That said, a leading indicator for us in regards to
whether the person reporting any such confusing
experience(s) may be paranormal – and therefore
within the scope of our teachings and ministry – is,
“Was there any type of communication from an entity
(or entities), and if so, was anything said about
God, or spirituality?” Surprisingly – and leading
secular researchers will confirm this – an amazingly
high number of those who identify themselves as
“abductees” or “contactees” will answer these
questions affirmatively. It is then that we are able
to examine the messages and compare them to the
Bible. Often we find convincing evidence that the
person is actually being contacted/harassed/abused
by a fallen angel (often pretending to be an alien,
in fact), and when this is the case, our counsel has
proven effective to many individuals for
terminating the contactee/abductee experience –
both in the moment, and as a life pattern.
We affirm that angelic manifestations can and do at
times leave physical evidence on a human (scars and
bruising, for example) and sometimes on the
environment (burn marks on the ground, radar blips,
photographic documentation, for
example). Biblically, recall that the angel Gabriel
appeared to Zechariah to announce to him John the
Baptist’s birth and future ministry, and then left
Zechariah physically both “…dumb, and unable to
speak” (Luke 1:20) until the appointed time.
We also affirm that VISIONARY experiences initiated
by an angel – whether by the holy angels or the
“fallen” ones – can indeed likewise leave
physical evidence (a case that can be scripturally
supported, see below). In many cases, whether the
experience is a completely real physical
manifestation or a completely real visionary
experience sometimes becomes extremely difficult
to discern… either by the experiencer, or by what
scripture actually says when reporting the incident.
Firstly, both The Old and New Testaments report that
angels can and do appear to us in DREAMS – i.e.,
three separate times to Mary’s husband Joseph. (Read
Matthew ch 1 & 2. See also Genesis 31:1 where “the
angel of God spoke to (Jacob) in a dream…”) The
famous “wise men” were in fact “…warned of God in a
dream that they should not return to Herod” Matt
2:12 – whether they were warned by an angel, The
Angel of The Lord, or some other way from God is
unclear. However, scripture is clear that God (cf
especially Job 33:14-17) and angels do interact with
and speak to humans at times while we are in our
normal dreaming state. (Many more biblical examples
can be found using BLB.org and entering the word
“dream.”)
The Bible never indicates that angelic experiences
should be dismissed as not “really” happening
because they were “just a dream.” Rather, the Bible
clearly states cases where “Thy dream, and the
visions of thy head upon thy bed…” (Daniel 2:28)
are real experiences (!) that indeed happened to the
person. The Bible routinely records both certain
dreams and visions as actual historical events that
occurred in the experiencers’ lives; we
therefore likewise affirm such experiences that
happen in modern times to be actual historical
events in the experiencers’ lives.
Dreams aside, in Genesis 32:25 Jacob wrestled with a
physically manifested angel, and was wounded. It was
not the illusion of a limp for the rest of his life,
nor a delusion of some sort. The event certainly
took place in “normal” space and time.
Angels did manifest physically, and dined on bread,
butter, milk and beef with Abraham (Genesis 18).
They did not create the illusion of the food
disappearing – it really got consumed
by them. Likewise, the angels that rescued Lot and
his family also ate bread with Lot (Genesis 19:3)
and did indeed strike certain citizens of Sodom with
real and probably permanent blindness (Gen 19:11).
Ezekiel describes an appearance of a remarkable
visitation of God (which many today quite wrongly
declare to be a “spacecraft”), yet in the telling he
absolutely qualifies the experience by stating –
TWICE – that this was indeed “a vision” (Ez 1:1 and
43:3). During this visionary experience, Ezekiel
even describes the physical realities and sensations
he experienced – such as his eating of a scroll,
which he says tasted like honey (Ez 3:3; compare to
Rev 10:10).
Much of the rest of the Book of Ezekiel describes
the exhaustively detailed nature(s) of his many
visionary experiences (much like John’s Revelation
also does). Ezekiel was likewise transported – not
literally, physically – but rather “in visions of
God” by an angel to Jerusalem (Ez 8:3) and to Israel
(Ez 40:2).
Daniel experienced a waking visionary visitation
by an angel - while he was in the presence of other
men (Dan 10:7). Daniel identifies the experience as
a vision that he “…alone saw. The men with me saw
not the vision, but a great quaking fell upon them,
so that they fled…” Here Daniel is fully cognizant
of the angel and is fully experiencing the vision
(opposed to a complete physical manifestation, which
the others would have likewise seen) yet the
visionary experience was powerful enough and shared
by them to such an extent that caused them fear.
Daniel describes many events that he perceived as
physically happening to him (being repositioned by
the angel, his lips touched, etc - read Dan 10) yet
again maintains that the experience was a vision.
(The overlap or similarity to what alien
"abductees" report should be apparent here. We
maintain that - while hard to grasp perhaps - the
Bible teaches that certain experiences best defined
biblically as visions do indeed involve experiences
with angels that produce lasting physical memories
and effects.)
Isaiah’s commissioning (Isa 6) certainly cannot be
argued to have been on earth in normal space and
time, but took place while the prophet appeared at
the very throne of God. (Nothing is mentioned here
as to how he got there.) What IS mentioned is the
intense detail of what he saw – highly descriptive
details of six-winged seraphim, their cries of
“Holy, holy, holy…”, door posts moving, the room
filling with smoke, and his own intense emotional
conviction of uncleanness – assuaged by the seraphim
removing a hot coal from the alter and touching it
to Isaiah’s lips. From just these few – but key – examples it is made
plain from scripture that the visionary experience
initiated by angels can involve all sorts of
physical detail, as well as sights, sounds, tastes,
smells and emotions – as well as “trips” to other
locations – that can be remembered in detail after
the vision has concluded. Saul (aka the apostle Paul), on Damascus Road, was
surrounded by a bright light and he – only
-personally heard the voice of the risen and
eternally living Jesus Christ. According to
scripture, Saul/Paul’s companions also saw a light
and heard a voice (BUT compare Acts 9 and 26
accounts – even in scriptural recounting one verse
says they DID hear the voice, another says they did
NOT. The discrepancy probably involves whether they
heard EVERY word – one thing is certain, scripture
is here recording that visionary experience(s) can
indeed be very quite personally subjective, and that
unique, differing personal experiences occur even to
people who were experiencing the exact same thing,
at the same time). Saul was left literally
physically blinded in the aftermath of the
experience, even though others who likewise “saw”
the light were not. In this particular case,
Saul/Paul (like Daniel and Ezekiel) possibly both
saw and heard things which the others simply did
not, and was also affected in a way the others were
not. Peter was released from chains and broken out of
prison by a physically manifested angel.
Interestingly, Peter – who was already experienced
with having visionary experiences (the unclean foods
/ Gentiles vision, Acts 10:9-19) – was confused over
whether the angel was present physically, or whether
he was experiencing a vision (Please read Acts
12:9). This (and Paul’s report, later) suggests that
there is much room for confusion when dealing with
angels and/or visionary experiences, even among the
(assumed) more experienced and discerning of
individuals. We ask, how much more is this
likely true today for the uninitiated, unlearned,
undiscerning, or those unbelieving today of
the Bible itself, and the true nature of the angelic
visionary experiences described in great detail in
the Bible? Jesus was transported to the top of the temple by
Satan -, as a result of the fallen angel (Lucifer)’s
presence. But Jesus was also “shown all the kingdoms
of the world in an instant” which is literally
impossible, suggesting a manipulation of reality, or
that He (in his mortal incarnation) likewise was
experiencing a visionary experience under the
(fallen) angel’s influence, just as many other
men in the Bible did also. Ezekiel also was taken
to the temple in Jerusalem, but in a vision (Eze
40:2, 41:1).
Similarly to Ezekiel’s visions, The Apostle John was
likewise “carried away” – not physically, but “in
the spirit” (Rev 17:3, 21:10) by an angel and shown
fantastic things. John also reports the extremely
detailed physical experience of eating a book from
the angel’s hand (Rev 10:10) and describing it as
tasting of honey and leaving his belly bitter! There
is no doubt in our view that angelic experiences
that happen completely in the non-physical spiritual realm can
be described in great detail afterwards as very
real experiences happening to the person in
question, and in some cases leaving physical proof,
and/or exhaustive memories of physical sensations. Paul – speaking specifically of “visions and
revelations” (2 Cor 12:1) – describes “a man” caught
up to the third heaven. Was this literal, or
visionary? Paul answers twice that even he “cannot
tell…” (2 Cor 2:2-3, English-language translation).
But by this, is Paul saying that he “could not
rightfully discern” well enough to give an absolute
answer, or that he “was not permitted” to answer the
question? While he does say that it was unlawful for
him to speak of the words that were spoken during
the experience, the Strong’s Concordance of the
Greek definition for “tell” (KJV) both times in this
passage reveals that in actuality Paul did not truly
“see” or “know” the answer well enough to answer
correctly on the nature of the experience itself
with any confidence. This is important! Paul (who most likely personally
experienced this, and) who had the apostolic
authority to answer this doctrinal question, leaves
us with the important fact that the visionary
experience is all but completely indistinguishable
from common every day reality and experiences – and
vice-versa. He simply answered that “God knows”
the truth, but even Paul himself could not say with
certainty whether this experience took place in
normal reality, or was a vision. It is reasonable to
conclude therefore that visions can easily be
mistaken for reality, especially within the
context of our modern culture, which as a whole is
largely unlearned about the reality and nature of
angelic and visionary experiences. Our position is that Ezekiel, Isaiah, Daniel, Peter,
Paul, John and others had real experiences. It would
be heresy to suggest that these experiences “did not
really happen” or that they were delusions,
illusions, or deceptions. (We think that most of
orthodox, Bible believing Christendom would agree.) They were real experiences which the Bible terms
“visions” – defined by Strong’s in the Old Testament
Hebrew as “to see, perceive, behold, prophesy as a
seer in the ecstatic state” and in the New Testament
Greek sometimes as “an appearance presented to one
whether asleep or awake” and sometimes as “a sight
divinely granted in an ecstasy or asleep.” While not a biblical resource, we also submit the
findings of the famed secular researcher, Dr.
Jacques Vallee (who spoke before the U.N. on the
fact that while there was no scientific evidence
that “aliens” were visiting earth, some force was
creating a global belief system that such was true,
and he cautioned the nations to be wary of this
intentionally fabricated belief system; cf, Vallee’s
Messengers of Deception; Appendix : Address to U.N.)
… Quite concisely, in an interview with Conspire.com,
Vallee said,
“…it’s quite possible that some of the stories that
you get from people are essentially induced hallucinations in sincere witnesses – the
witnesses are not lying. They really have been
exposed to something genuine…”
Vallee also wrote that, ”Human beings are under the
control of a strange force that bends them in absurd
ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game
of deception.” (Messengers of Deception, pg 20) And,
“Perhaps the most important effects from the UFO
technology are the social ones and not the physical
ones. In other words the physical reality may serve
only as a kind of triggering device to provide
images for the witness to report. These perceptions
are manipulated to create certain kinds of social
effects.”
We likewise affirm that (many of) those who report
"alien abduction" today – and who sometimes witness
and interact with alleged other people, alleged
aliens, or even alleged “hybrid” children during
these experiences – are not lying, but are indeed
having experiences which really do happen to
them. What Dr. Vallee called a “strange force” we
identify as fallen angels, based largely on the
fruit of torment and the anti-christ and unbiblical
messages and belief systems routinely imparted
during the experiences. (Compare also Dr. Vallee’s
secular – ie, non-theological – word choice “induced
hallucination” to one Strong’s definition of a
vision (above) “an appearance presented to
one whether asleep or awake.”) Our
scripturally based belief is that in every
experience that the fantastical and extremely
detailed experiences reported by those to whom
“alien abduction” happens to, are visionary in
nature – and are not “simply” illusions, dreams, or
delusions.
These very real dream and/or visionary
experiences – initiated by a fallen angel's
presence, who then simulate false or non-existent
locations not in keeping with every day normalcy.
The experiences are sometimes shared by multiple
experiencers/witnesses who likewise see, feel or
hear aspects of the vision. Any people perceived,
however, during these commonly
reported experiences (such as deceased relatives,
alleged military or government personal), any
non-human beings (such as grey aliens, reptilians, nordics, human-alien hybrids), and/or any locations
(space ships, underground bases, hollow earth, other
planets) should be interpreted as temporary
constructs of the visionary experience – not as
reflective of any lasting or permanent reality.
There is simply no evidence or scripturally sound
argument to suggest that people are really taken to
off-planet locations, nor that they are truly siring
physically real children, as is also sometimes
reported. They are indeed having real experiences,
but ones that occur outside the physical reality we
all currently share. When the vision is over, we
believe that the planet, spaceship, hybrid children,
underground locations, military personnel, “aliens”
etc, simply cease to exist – at least until it
serves the angel’s purposes to reconstruct them
temporarily again, to further indoctrinate the
individual into a deceptive belief system.
We are aware of the extensive and in some cases
commendable research done by many secular
authorities in the area of (alleged) “alien
abduction” research and the exhaustive works
they have done in listening to and documenting
the experiences of the “abductees.” We believe
however that what the victims of these events
are reporting are intensely real (and traumatic)
visionary experiences.
We
are also aware that many (women, especially) are
under repeated tormenting experiences where they
are given visions of their own half-alien child.
We affirm that this is a deception to keep the
woman open to and receptive of further visits by
these fallen angelic entities, but affirm that
the children in question are not “real” in any
normal sense of the word. They “disappear” when
the vision is over, only to be re-conjured when
it suits the entities to visit the woman again.
We are also aware of a
somewhat Christianized version of this
deception. In the years since some Christians
have become more aware of the deceptive agenda
behind modern alien lore, and identified them as
deceptive angels (opposed to genuine
extra-terrestrial life forms from other
planets), we have seen that some Christians
teach today that the hybrids reported in such
visions are indeed real - only that they are
human-angel hybrids, rather than the secular
deception of human-alien hybrids.
Note that we do not affirm a belief in modern
hybridization, nor see it as relevant to the
topic of modern "alien abduction" cases - except
for the purposes of causing greater confusion
and deception. First, the "abductee" /
experiencer is tormented and confused by what
he/she sees in these visions. Then those who
study their reports seem to accept the temporary
vision as some permanent reality, and next build
secular arguments or questionable doctrines
based upon the visions. We emphasize again, that
everything reported in these visions is given at
the will of a fallen, deceptive angel, and
should therefore not be believed as reflective
of truth.
For Christians reading this material, please
note that after several years of personally
examining modern hybridization theory, we see no
evidence to support such a conclusion. Nor do we
see this view as a theologically sound position,
nor an “air-tight” interpretation, especially
when adding speculative but ultimately
unprovable ideas, as some today do, about where
these alleged hybrid children currently are
(such as underground bases, the second heaven,
hell, etc…) or by allowing the actions/visions
of these fallen angels to fuel questionable
interpretations of prophecy involving such
"hybrids."
In listening and ministering to those who are
experiencing the torment of various “alien
abduction” scenarios, and in teaching the Body
of Christ what we believe to be truth on this
matter, know that we are committed to limiting
our teachings only to what Bible does say and
what can be supported with clear, orthodox
scriptural interpretation.
Put simply, the
Bible teaches that angels can appear to people
in dreams, and that they can induce very real
panoramic visionary states that affect the mind,
heart, soul and body. We believe that God has
provided enough for us in the scriptures to
interpret this modern phenomena, and that this
explanation for the “alien abduction” scenario
is both scriptural and sufficient; we see
nothing in the UFO/Alien phenomena that does not
have a precedent in the biblical records of
angels, and nothing in the phenomena convincing
enough to warrant a possible explanation not
covered in scripture.
In simply addressing some of the various
“Christian” teachings that abound on this
subject however, we affirm that there is no
scriptural precedent for alien/angel – human
hybrids being hidden in underground bases or
the second heaven (which
the Bible defines as outerspace). We also
affirm there is NO scriptural precedent for
“normal human"-looking angel/human hybrids
“because angels have – via technology or
inbreeding – somehow overcome
the gigantism of the giants(nephilim).”
(This is in reference to the Genesis 6 "sons of
God" angels/Sethites interpretation
controversy.) These are man-made speculations
(which in some niche circles are in effect
becoming “traditions” already) that in the minds
of some seem to trump what the Word of God does
say, and is “making the word of God of none
effect” (Mark 7:13) to those who receive these
teachings as sound, verifiable doctrine.
We affirm that those (again, usually women)
who are experiencing such torment are (most
often) telling the truth of their very real
experiences of being shown “their child.” But we
want them to know that the “children” in
question are – as explained above – temporary
constructs of the visionary experience, designed
to keep you in the bondage of welcoming
experiences with unholy, fallen entities, who
are lying to you.
Additionally,
we want all to know that any actual born, real
and existing children are not alien/angel-human
hybrids either, but are human - regardless of
whatever experience you may have had. Such
experiences are designed to cause you to doubt
the humanity of real and existing children, to
your and their spiritual detriment. The point of
this deception is make people doubt their, or
their children's, ability to receive the gospel
of eternal salvation in Jesus Christ.
We have found that both men and women who
receive the truth about the deceptive nature of
the alleged aliens AND the alleged hybrid
children receive relatively quick freedom
through Jesus Christ from the tormenting and
repeated harassment of these entities, while
those who maintain the belief that the
angels/aliens are holding their "real" child
“somewhere”, or maintain the belief that their
real existing children "are angel/alien
hybrids", remain in bondage and experience
continued torment, indoctrination, and/or
visitations from these unholy angels.
However, the Biblical pattern and teaching that
must be drawn when examining these reports, is
that angels are creating scenarios that are
genuinely real – for a time – to the experiencer,
but that it is quite unbiblical to say that the
there is permanent physicality (including hybrid
children) to the experiences, aside from the
noted limited physical "false signs and wonders"
which remain, such as moved objects, or scars
and bruises left on the individual, etc. (2 Thes
2:9) The emotional scars which can remain are
much worse, and we affirm that there is hope and
healing, salvation, victory, peace and joy
available to you through relationship with the
risen Lord, Jesus Christ.
We also wish to publicly rebut, rebuke, and
state that we abhor any stance or teaching that
affirms or encourages violence and/or
discrimination toward those who are perceived to
be, or perceive themselves to be, human-looking
hybrids (either alien/human or angel/human).
While we do not personally believe such even
existing is the case, we affirm that anybody
human enough, flesh-and-blood, to be reading
this, is eligible for salvation through faith in
Jesus Christ’s atoning death and resurrection
from the dead.
We are in strict opposition to certain teachings
that human-looking hybrids cannot be saved, and
we are aware that – sadly – eventually certain
“fringe” element “loose cannon religious nut”
types could at some point commit or condone
violence towards those whom they perceive to be
hybrids – based on the bad fruit of these
teachings. We affirm that violence of any kind
goes against the teachings of Jesus Christ, and
openly condemn any act of violence or
discrimination based upon belief in modern
human-looking hybrids. This writing is in fact,
in part, an effort to prevent such violence,
discrimination, or denial of the gospel and
loving Christian fellowship to someone based on
outlandish teachings about modern hybrids that
we see now beginning to emerge in certain
(limited, niche) Christian circles.
We additionally call for any Christian teachers
guilty of teaching such to recant any teaching
that human-looking hybrids cannot be saved, both
for the sake of those individuals accused of or
wondering about this, and to prevent the bad
fruit of violence and discrimination that will
naturally follow as a result of promoting such a
belief. We remind all that Christians especially
are authorized to use only love, humility,
self-sacrifice, prayer, fasting, and the
preaching of God’s Word and the Gospel of Jesus
Christ to combat the evils of this present age.
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood…”
Eph 6:12-19
“For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war
after the flesh: For the weapons of our warfare
are not carnal, but mighty through God for the
pulling down of strongholds. Casting down
imaginations…” Cor 10:3-4
“Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel
to every creature. He that believeth and is
baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth
not shall be damned.” Mark 16:15-16
*Please Also see “The
Bible, Physics, and the Abilities of Fallen Angels” for
more information on fallen angel Vision
experiences.*
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